#186 She Spent Years Hiding What Made Her Different

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Episode #186 Lizzie Siegel

“She Spent Years Hiding What Made Her Different”

 

(00:00) Doreen Downing: Hi, this is Dr. Doreen Downing. I want to welcome you to the Find Your Voice, Change Your Life podcast, where I get to interview guests who have not only traveled literally, like the guest we’re going to talk to today, 70 countries, but get to travel into the inner realms, the vastness that’s within us, and get to be great explorers.

That’s what I love about the work that I do, and I’m inviting you today, listeners, to go on this inner journey. Hi, Lizzie.

(00:39) Lizzie Siegel: Hello, Doreen. Thank you so much for having me here. I’m so happy and excited to be here.

(00:46) Doreen Downing: Yes, I can see it. I can feel it. I’m ready, and I think my listeners just heard your voice and can see that there’s a lot of aliveness in you.

There’s a bio that you sent, and I’d like to read that because it’s amazing to learn about you. Lizzie Siegel is my guest today. Lizzie Siegel is a resource and reality architect, subconscious freedom coach, and global grid worker who has traveled to over 70 countries activating the Earth’s energetic grids, sacred sites, and collective consciousness.

She works at the intersection of voice, frequency, and remembrance using sound, light language, and intuitive transmission to awaken what she calls divine source codes within the human system. With a rare clairaudient gift, Lizzie hears beyond words, reading the energetic field of what is spoken, suppressed, and ready to be liberated.

Her presence alone becomes a catalyst for transformation, dissolving deep rooted patterns of fear, trauma, and limitation, and recalibrating individuals at the level of identity, nervous system, and soul.

She doesn’t just help people find their voice, which is what we’re about to listen to. She helps them remember who they were before they ever learned to silence it.

She doesn’t just use her voice. She activates something within yours. Once that happens, there’s no going back. This is a soul signature frequency remembrance.

I have to take a big breath and let all of that in. Those are a lot of words, but they are descriptions of not only who you are in your very essence, but what you’re about, why you’re even on this earth doing what you’re doing, what you’ve been called to do, and what people get to have once they’ve been in your presence.

I know I’ve been in your presence, and I would use that word, activated, by what you bring to the moment. Thank you, Lizzie, for being here.

(03:25) Lizzie Siegel: Thank you so much for having me here. Thank you also for your soul signature frequency and what you activate within not only me, but all the lives of people you touch, because we’re doing this together.

(03:41) Doreen Downing: Yes. That’s interesting. Usually, I start with early life, but I think what you just said is very important about the relational quality and how important being with others is, people who have a certain kind of, well, I guess you’re calling it frequency, aliveness, and a certain kind of openness to what’s possible.

I think you and I are both explorers, travelers, explorers.

(04:10) Lizzie Siegel: Yes.

(04:11) Doreen Downing: Literally, I haven’t counted how many countries, nearly not as many as yours.

Before we move into diving back into your history, it feels like the reason I feel Lizzie is here on this earth is to serve what she’s going to talk about today, give you her message, and invite you to take a breath and open up because I think just listening to Lizzie will be a transformational experience.

(04:51) Lizzie Siegel: Thank you. You’re welcome.

Let’s all take a collective breath. Everybody who’s here, wherever you’re at, I invite you to really just… if you’re driving, keep your eyes open, please… take a deep breath in through your nose, filling up your belly, ribs, and your chest. Let it fill you up.

Hold it when you get to the top and open your mouth, sigh it out. We get to land here in our bodies. Allow your breathing to just be full. We’re anchored together. Can you feel that shift?

(05:40) Doreen Downing: Yes.

(05:41) Lizzie Siegel: Yes. These are the moments, those micro moments in between, that I actually really live for. It’s that pause, that little space, that I think makes a huge difference. Silence is actually really important for our voice, for the message to be heard.

(06:01) Doreen Downing: Yes, that’s where we bring in listening.

(06:04) Lizzie Siegel: You speak a lot about that, the act of listening.

(06:08) Doreen Downing: Yes, I do. What I felt right then when you said connection, and I’m imagining that those who are listening took that breath, then the whole… it’s not just you and I connecting. We now have a deeper energetic connection to those who are with us in this moment, or with us on the replay.

(06:33) Lizzie Siegel: Yes.

(06:34) Doreen Downing: Let’s go and learn about how you came into this world and some of what you might call those facts, those details.

You are a beautiful being, and you came in as a beautiful being, I’m sure. But you landed somewhere, and usually where people land is a challenge. That’s partly what we’re here to do, to learn how to face those challenges.

So early on, when you look back around having a voice or not having a voice, what was that?

(07:11) Lizzie Siegel: This is so glorious. I love to say that I came in remembering, and I did. I remembered for quite a while before it was part of my agreement that I would forget and fall back asleep.

I was very in tune as a little child. I was very connected. I was connected to other dimensions and other realms. Now that I’m older, I remember that, but at the time I didn’t really know what I was doing. It was just being me.

I also learned and heard the story from a very early age that my voice, my cry, even as a baby, was very disturbing and that I would make people want to leave because I cried all the time and I was a grumpy child.

The only person who could make me smile as a baby was my opa.

I grew up hearing these stories and really creating a world of words from these experiences. It wasn’t until much later that I uncovered that.

Through this journey of agreeing to forget, there was a time around when I was maybe 7 or 8 years old when my opa departed this world. My connection to the unseen realms was severed, not entirely, just forgotten. It went to sleep. It had a little shush.

That sent me on a beautiful many decade journey of not exactly knowing how to express myself always and being clammed up in a lot of spaces, not sharing my voice super freely, knowing that I had to monitor myself. Things that I would say would scare others or disturb them or make them go, “What’s happening here? Why does she know that?”

I learned how not to say everything and how to be very guarded and very choosy with my words.

Even though I would speak, it wasn’t fully me. It was a version of me.

This was part of the experience that I got to go through so that I could come to a place where that would no longer be how I wanted to live my life.

(09:56) Doreen Downing: Well, what a beginning to later on in life look back at when you arrived here. That’s partly what it seems like your message is, that we all have a remembrance, but we’ve either forgotten it or we haven’t connected with it yet. We haven’t been guided there.

I think that’s one of the things you do with your work. You help people go, “Oh, I didn’t know I remembered. I didn’t know I had a remembrance,” because it’s so deep.

It’s so fascinating because you’re rare on my show in terms of having a sense of yourself as a little one being quite attuned to other realms.

(10:55) Doreen Downing: Do you have any moments that you might share that would give us a picture of what that looked like?

(11:01) Lizzie Siegel: Yes. Actually, this one moment came back to me when I was in my late twenties or early thirties, where I was being attuned into energy work and seeing how I could work through multiple dimensions, reach into the dimensions, and work with the grids and the codes.

This was part of what I do as a global grid worker. I was on one of my missions doing one of these things, and I was like, “Oh my gosh,” because I was transported back to a time when I was about 4 or 5 years old.

I was in my bedroom as a child, and I was reaching to fix my dolly into its little hat and pushing her into place. I had OCD as a child, obsessive compulsive disorder to a serious degree, where I couldn’t leave my room without putting everybody in their place and checking on everything and flattening everything out and doing this work.

When I was transported to this memory, I realized, “Oh, I wasn’t just pushing my dolly into its place. I was reaching into another dimension, doing some interdimensional work.”

To everybody else on the outside, it looked like I was just fidgeting with my dolly or making sure that she was the way I wanted before it was okay. But I was actually working with the energies, and until that was done, I wasn’t able to leave because I was doing really important work.

I remember my parents not really knowing what to do. I went to a therapist and all these things. The other kids in the therapist’s office would play with the toys and do different things, and I’d be the one there organizing everything, fixing everything into place, making sure everything was copacetic, and freaking out when people were getting in the way of the work that I was doing.

It wasn’t until my parents… they did the best that they could with all the tools and strategies they had and the advice they were given. They literally removed everything from my room and left me with my bed and my one bunny because it was really challenging for life, especially because they didn’t know what to do with what I was experiencing.

It didn’t stop me from working with the dimensions, but it changed the way that I operated within it.

This is one experience where it’s like we are so connected at every moment that when we have that remembrance, the reasons why everything happened the way that it happened helps us go, “Oh, it’s all happening for us, through us, because it is us.”

(14:12) Doreen Downing: Ooh. For us, through us, because it is us.

(14:16) Doreen Downing: That’s very profound. I’m so glad you gave us the insight, the snapshot of that life moment for you.

I understand a little bit more about the challenge of having these tuning forks that are natural inside of you, which would then create anxiety, what looks like anxiety or gets diagnosed as anxiety.

I think in some ways, as a psychologist, it really opens my mind. When I work with people with anxiety, what if there’s something else going on, not just what we call, “We’ve got to treat the anxiety,” right?

I just said that, and I could see how, on the outside, to psychologists and therapists and parents, you looked like a little anxious girl.

(15:12) Lizzie Siegel: I’ve had the blessing. Can I share something with you?

(15:17) Doreen Downing: Yes.

(15:18) Lizzie Siegel: I’ve had the blessing. I have a degree in psychology. My undergrad degree is in psychology because I was fascinated by it.

This led me to working with children with abnormal psychology because one of my classes was for that, and it led me into the schools.

I became a teacher for nearly 2 decades, an international American school teacher for nearly 2 decades, and I worked with a lot of kids with high anxiety and neurodivergence of all sorts.

This prepared me for this because there are so many neurodivergences that I believe are highly misunderstood in Western culture, which other societies would call gifts. They would call them highly attuned to other dimensions.

ADHD, I call it attention dialed into a higher dimension. There’s something different going on there, and once we can actually learn to work with that in a different way from the perspectives that I’m working with, it changes people’s lives.

The kids that I’ve gotten to work with, people would say, “Put her in that class because she knows what to do with them. Give her all the anxious babies.”

I would have a class full of these anxious babies at the beginning of the year, and by the end of the year we would have a transformation because they no longer have to be anxious because they get to learn how to use their gifts.

They get to be who they really are.

(16:45) Doreen Downing: Yes, and that’s about identity too, learning who they are and accepting who they are.

Even though others, like peers, might be bullying or teasing, it feels like there’s a stronger sense of connection to who you truly are, especially when it’s been mirrored by somebody like you, an authority. It helps to believe in yourself.

Well, thank you. This is already opening up for people, the listeners. I’m sure some are wondering, “Oh, how did she do that?”

Since this is about voice and finding your voice and we’re moving into… Well, you said you went into the stage of probably leaving, taking a rest, I think is the word you used, but then you, I’m going to use this phrase and put quotes around it, “woke up.”

(17:45) Lizzie Siegel: Yes.

(17:46) Doreen Downing: Is that the word you’re saying?

(17:47) Lizzie Siegel: Yes. I woke up, then I remembered.

(17:52) Doreen Downing: Tell us about that.

(17:55) Lizzie Siegel: It happened over a series of years, to be honest. There were some really key moments where I had experiences that can only be described as transcendental, where some of them came from really difficult, challenging situations that totally altered the course of my life.

One of them was a car accident. Actually, a lot of them were accidents, to be honest. But they were all places that helped me remember that I am divinely guided and protected, so protected that there’s no reason I should be here today.

Because we are divine beings who have this ability to choose how it’s going to go, when we remember that, we actually get to play with reality.

I still exist in human physical form, and it was me hearing what I now know was just another version of me telling me what to do so that I could still be alive.

One accident was a big catalyst that sent me into a place where I was like, “I need to leave and go across the world for a while.”

There was a really bad car accident my sister and I were in, and I heard right before it happened, “Hold on.”

(19:31) Doreen Downing: Mm.

(19:32) Lizzie Siegel: If I hadn’t been holding on, it could have been really drastic because I was dumb. I wasn’t wearing my seatbelt. I was just young and dumb.

That “hold on” saved my life, and I knew from how unscathed I was by what happened that it was divine guidance.

It created this jolting moment in my life where I realized what I hear is very important to pay attention to. What I say is also important.

It allowed me to have these stories that I knew I could tell in the right spaces, to share with other people who would resonate and start having these shared experiences and diving deeper into more of what is unseen and unheard.

(20:30) Doreen Downing: Yes, what is unseen and unheard. However, what you’re saying is there’s something about your ability or your gift that you can hear the unheard.

(20:43) Lizzie Siegel: Yes. I believe that we all have this gift, truly. We all have all of the clair skills. It’s just a matter of learning how to work with them and develop them, and some are a little more natural to others.

(20:58) Doreen Downing: Yes. That makes me wonder about the clair skills. I just started reflecting on my own, what mine are, and you pointed to your ears.

(21:16) Lizzie Siegel: We have clairaudience. We have claircognizance, which is like you just know stuff. You don’t know why you know it, but you just know it.

Clairaudience and claircognizance are my two greatest clair skills.

We have clairvoyance, where you see things, and it doesn’t just mean your eyes are open and you see things. Your eyes could be closed when you see things, or you can get imagery in your mind.

We have clairsentience where you feel things, and it can be a physical feeling or connection or kind of an inner feeling.

I never remember the names of the ones where you taste things and smell things, but they also have names. I’ll pretend to remember them right now.

Sometimes you’ll get those memories where you’re like, “Why do I smell that thing from my childhood?”

(22:08) Doreen Downing: Yes.

(22:09) Lizzie Siegel: There’s this one specific smell of a ball that I had as a child. It was a scratch and sniff ball. I don’t know why we had those, and I can smell it sometimes.

Then there’s tasting, when you have this taste in your mouth and you’re remembering something.

We can all tune into these different senses at different times, and if you practice with them, you can actually develop them even better.

Some, like I said, are very natural to you. People often know intuition, feel it, and experience it, and this is a lot of clairsentience, but maybe they don’t know how to work with it, or maybe they’ve been taught to ignore it.

It can show up for people in different places in their bodies, depending on their unique design.

(23:03) Doreen Downing: It reminds me that the ways you’re describing are like voices, and this hearing the unheard that you talked about…

(23:16) Lizzie Siegel: I love that description. That’s brilliant. They are like voices.

(23:21) Doreen Downing: Hello in there.

Wow. What you’re opening up for us today is not just magnificence, but a beautiful complexity. Complex can feel like everything is twisted up, but what I’m getting today from you is a beautiful, brilliant complexity.

(23:52) Lizzie Siegel: Nature is inherently simple, yet richly complex.

(23:56) Doreen Downing: Ah, here we are.

Well, moving along on your journey, besides the moments in all those 70 countries where you had experiences, accidents, wake up calls, and learning how to be more of who you are meant to be, or who you are now, what are some things you can tell us about how you actually claimed these clair skills or really moved out of being…

I think you’re still, like you say to me, and I think we always are evolving, let’s put it that way. You aren’t just, “Hello, Miss Guru. You’re all done growing.” I understand that.

But there seems to be something where you’ve really claimed it, I guess.

(24:59) Lizzie Siegel: Yes. Thank you for asking that.

My experience was really challenging and difficult. I would even say really, really hard. I just want to preface this with saying it doesn’t have to be this hard.

We actually can go through this journey in a really joyful, loving, beautiful way. You do not have to get to rock bottom in order for it to happen.

That’s what I want the takeaway to be, that you don’t have to do it the hard way. I’ve already done it the hard way. If you want to do it the hard way, go ahead and do it the hard way, but there are people in this world who can help you so you don’t have to.

I did it the hard way because I needed to go on this journey myself and know things for myself.

I had a series of unfortunate events, as I like to call them. I was in an accident, I broke something, got in another accident, and was really sick because I was not listening to my intuition.

My intuition was trying to tell me gently, gently, gently, “Hey, wake up. Hey, pay attention. This job, this relationship, this place, it’s not for you.”

I was just being me and being so stubborn, thinking that my conscious mind knew better. I was also in survival mode.

When you’re in survival mode, your scope narrows, and it becomes very hard for you to do anything but survive and pay attention to anything besides your basic needs.

I didn’t have the capacity, nor did I have the tools, to even breathe properly so I could take a beat, take a breath, and pay attention to what was going on around me.

Not only did I have an accident, but my back was really injured and the doctors wanted to fuse my spine together.

I was like, “Well, that’s not going to happen. We can’t go that route. What else is there?”

At the right moment, information dropped into my field from Dr. Joe Dispenza, where he had been in an accident and healed his spine without needing surgery.

I was like, “Well, if he can do it, so can I.” I went on this journey.

(27:17) Doreen Downing: I’m going to, because you’re talking about the break, it reminded me that I need to take a break.

This is mid story here, so we get to come back. We’ll be right back with Lizzie Siegel in just a second.

(27:33) Doreen Downing: Hi, this is Dr. Doreen Downing with the Find Your Voice, Change Your Life podcast, and I’m back today with Lizzie Siegel, who’s mid story about her journey to… I hate to use the word wake up because it’s not just a one moment thing.

What we’re learning today is there are events, accidents, and ways in which the universe was saying, “Hello. Here, here, here, there’s more for you. Don’t get stuck.”

Here you are about to consider some kind of back surgery, fuse the spine or something, and you said no.

What happened next? You said something about somebody hired you.

 

(28:24) Lizzie Siegel: Yes. I found Dr. Joe Dispenza’s work at this time, that he had healed his back and refused surgery, and it was even worse than mine. Through meditation and energy work and things like that, I thought, “Well, if he can do it, so can I.”

My friend at the time said, “My friend hurt their back and got really into yoga and it helped them.” I was like, “Okay, yoga. Okay, meditation. Sign me up. What can I do?” I started practicing yoga, breathwork, and meditation.

There was a profound moment that I will never forget where I was sitting on my yoga mat after a breathwork meditation session, and it was quiet in my mind. For the first time in what felt like my entire life, my eyes popped open and I was like, “Is that what people mean when it’s quiet in there? When their mind goes quiet?” Because I had never experienced that. It was always very loud in my mind.

I was hooked, and I kept returning to the practice of yoga, breathwork, and meditation again and again. I was like, “I need to learn more.” So I dove into the studies of yoga, became a yoga teacher, and did all the things. Then I was healing. I was getting better. My back didn’t hurt anymore. I was capable again. It felt like a miracle.

Then COVID happened, and there was a big shift in the relationship I was in at the time. While it was beautiful and I wouldn’t change it for the world, I want to share this because I think it will help some people identify and evaluate what’s going on for them.

I felt like I was a secret the entire time. I felt like I couldn’t really be myself. I was very much me within that small bubble, but I was a version of me that wasn’t the best version of me. I would never say anything outside of that bubble of the relationship, and I was kept a secret within that relationship.

It was weird, to be honest. It was weird and beautiful and expansive all at the same time. There was so much love and support, but also so much toxicity and so much strife.

I really lost myself in that relationship. I abandoned myself in order to get the love that I thought I needed. Obviously, at the time, that was what I needed, yet it made me not fully be me within that relationship.

During COVID there was much more time and space to be quiet and think. I was living in the Middle East at the time, and we had a strange lockdown where everything was shut down. We were in our houses almost all the time and had 2 hours of outdoor time a day.

I remember that in those moments of quietness, because I had so much time to myself, I actually got to hear my own voice, but I ignored it. I even said to my mother, “I think I need to exit this relationship.”

I was still outsourcing all my power then, and I listened to all the outside voices saying, “Don’t do anything crazy during COVID. Don’t change your life too much. Don’t be too drastic. Just hang tight.” I didn’t listen to my inner voice. I listened to all the outer voices, and I got so sick.

I developed a bunch of autoimmune diseases. My body was screaming at me. It was attacking itself, and I got so sick.

It wasn’t until I had an absolute breakdown that led to a breakthrough that led me on a journey to Thailand for yoga, which I thought was for yoga, but it was actually for energy healing.

I learned energy healing. I got tuned back into realms that I remembered, into the energetic realms, the galactic realm, the angelic realm, and all the divine beings that were there to support me on my journey. That really helped change my life.

Sound healing found me shortly after, and within about 6 months I was like, “Okay, we have to change it.” I started listening.

I could also see the dis ease leaving my body. I knew I was getting better. I could literally see it line up and leave my body through all this energetic work I was doing.

The last thing I had to do was leave this relationship.

There was also another thing that happened where I was supposed to get my hip replaced because something happened there. The doctor told me, “You need a full hip replacement.”

That moment led me to another doctor who said, “Wait a minute. Have you experienced trauma in your life?” I said, “Yes.”

He was the first doctor who had ever looked at me like a whole person and wondered what was really going on. He said, “Tell me more.”

I told him all the things and said, “But I don’t think I have these diseases anymore. I think I’m better now.” He said, “This medicine you’re taking is what’s deteriorating your bones, your hips, everything.”

I got off the medicine and went through more testing. He said, “You don’t have any markers of the disease anymore.”

I was like, “I knew it. I knew it,” because I had healed all of that.

It was letting go of these last little remnants of misalignment that allowed me to find my voice, come back to myself, share this story, and even share what was going on in that relationship that wasn’t okay. That changed everything.

(34:48) Doreen Downing: Well, there’s a word you just used, misalignment, which feels like partly what I’m taking from our conversation today. All the ways in which by not listening, by not paying attention to voices inside of you, the smart ones, the wise ones, the ones from the soul, and instead listening to the outer voices, you either got hurt, collapsed, or in those ways self injured.

You used this phrase, by not listening to yourself, you abandoned yourself. I think that’s something we’re taking today from you.

Before we come to an end, I want to make sure we come back to nowadays and what you’re offering and how people might… Well, we’ll have show notes so people can look you up and find you.

So what do you get to do nowadays?

(35:50) Lizzie Siegel: Now I get to help other beautiful sovereign beings. I say help, but really I’m just guiding. I’m walking alongside them as they remember the truth of who they are.

I get to share with people different codes of remembrance to get them beyond the places where they’re stuck and self sabotaging and looping in cycles that are no longer serving them, and help them expand beyond that.

They get to recalibrate their nervous system. They get to reprogram their subconscious mind with me, and they get to take inspired and aligned action in the direction of their desires. I hold them lovingly accountable to that journey.

I don’t just work with them and then say, “Bye.” I work with them and journey with them as they move through the parts that are often some of the most challenging for people, which is taking action.

Because it’s fine to do the rituals. It’s fine to do the transformative work behind the scenes. Then in the physical reality world, the world is a mirror, and we have to take action because we don’t go to the mirror, poke at the mirror, and tell the mirror to smile.

We know we smile first, and then the reflection smiles back at us.

Just like dominoes don’t fall over on their own, you have to flick them. We have to flick the first domino to send the chain event, and I get to support people in that journey.

(37:21) Doreen Downing: Well, I’ve never heard such a description of how change happens or how somebody who has gifts like you do can work with people, not just in the inner realms but also the outer, and how important both are.

I get how much you value both, and it isn’t just valuing it, that’s the truth.

(37:49) Lizzie Siegel: We can’t just do the inner work and not the outer work. At the same token, we can’t just do all the forcing action of the outer world and expect that the inside is going to change because that’s when we see the disconnect.

That’s where you go back to old behaviors or back to whatever the self sabotaging stuff is instead of really creating sustainable change from a place of self led service.

When we really think about service, if we’re not including ourselves in it, what are we even doing? That’s just pleasing. That’s not service. That’s people pleasing dressed up in some kind of fancy costume.

True service means we serve ourselves first so that we can then be of the most service to everybody else around us.

(38:33) Doreen Downing: Let’s take a breath together.

I think people who are listening, if you take a breath, you’ll be able to hold what Lizzie has been able to share with us today. Not only the messages, but as I said earlier, there’s a transmission going on.

Just by her presence, she’s sending us energy that will help whatever it is we need help with.

Is that true?

(39:05) Lizzie Siegel: It’s absolutely true.

(39:07) Doreen Downing: Well, thank you for blessing this space today, Lizzie. It feels like in our relationship we’re going to continue dancing together into realms yet to be explored.

(39:26) Lizzie Siegel: I’m so excited for that. Thank you so much for having me on, and thank you to everybody who’s listening at whatever point in the here and now that you’re listening, for sharing your precious time and energy with us and creating this beautiful collective space.

(39:47) Doreen Downing: Thank you.